Talk:Common sense conservative

I believe you are wildly misinformed about the Latin American realities..


 * the growth of Evangelicals churches in Latin America with very different political and economic attitudes to the North American churches that started them-only in any cases,because majority are ndigenous in origins-, is quite well documented.

Conservatism is also native to Latin America. It has been there since the Spanish conquest. It began with an alliance between the Spanish conquerers and the Catholic Church, which is why anti-clercalism was an element among reform minded people in that area,in 19 century and first ages in 20 century,because these governments was very corrupted,authoritarians and profoundly influenced by positivism,there was a reaction between people leding to new involvement by catholic clergy in latin american plitics.


 * The Catholic Church is on both sides of this - there's also [[liberation theology,more as another power discourse and a way to coopting support from intelectuals,universities,and leftists politicals groups and retain power sectors and impedes growing from evangelicals churches, while supporting a generally very lax attitude to sexual unmorality and retained pagan customs.  The Evangelicals churches,because majority from members are from low class and uneducated seem no to be overwhelmingly on the side of those who embrace free enterprise in an unrestricted way - as it is in North America.  And are very condemning of any catholic tradition left over from pre-columbian times.

There has always been an alliance between conservative business interests from developed countries-mainly europeans- and the "upper classes" in Latin America.

Unlike Spanish and Portuguese colonialism, direct rule was not mormally involved with developed nations. They supported right wing dictators

and used their ecomomic power to flood these countries with their products retarding the development of local industry. These countries had no protectionist legislation to promote their economic development. Do you can call it, in effect, "Economic Imperialism" if you are so supid to believe in marxism nowadays.. The activities of what used to be called United Fruit in Central America most readily comes to mind in with regard to the alliace between U.S. business interest and Latin American "Leaders". British business interests pre-dated the U.S. in the region.


 * All true. But you are making the argument that this pro-globalization, pro-free-enterprise, imperialist political economy was an import, not home-grown.  Also, this is history, not wholly relevant to what has gone on in the current round of globalization where religion has come along for the ride in the form of Protestantism.  There is no implication I hope that the new "common sense conservative" is the ONLY type of conservative... that is not true even in North America.  But maybe it is best to restrict the CSC idea to North America, since Latin America is so different.

In some countries in Latin America, Conservatism has a racial aspect. A class line is sometimes drawn between the European appearance of the "upper class" and the Indian appearance of the majority population.By example in Cuba every leader in Castro nomenklatura is white,while black population is staunchly opposite to him.

Conservatism is a world wide attitude and politcal thought. It takes various forms and reflects a need for certainty in a uncertain world. As with any political philosophy, its forms are sometimes unique to specific areas.


 * Very true. Well, if you wish to write an article on the Latin American upper class, which also has the feature that it is closely connected to the military (almost all upper class families have military officers in each generation if you talks about chile or argentina reality is very different in venezuela.,by example.,