User talk:Pablo.gutierrez13

Hello Pablo,

Welcome to SourceWatch! I just noticed your work on the Vodafone article, and wanted to give two bits of feedback.

One is that the "ref tag" reference format is preferred to the URL in single brackets option. See SourceWatch:References for a full explanation.

The other is that it's best to avoid directly copying extensive text from any source. It looks as though much of the Vodafone article on SourceWatch comes directly from the company's page, with references to "we" intact. It would be great if you could instead summarize this info, only using direct quotes (and marking them as direct quotes with quotation marks) when it's important to highlight exactly what the company's website says.

Thanks, and feel free to leave a note for me or another SourceWatch editor if you have questions.

-- Diane Farsetta 11:06, 20 October 2008 (EDT)

Hi Pablo,

welcome to SourceWatch. I have just been reviewing the Novartis page and have jotted some notes and posted them [Talk:Novartis]]. I have to go for a while but I'll be back later to add some more -- but I'd like your pages to be a little more reader friendly and am happy to help make that happen. I'll be in touch, with thanks --Bob Burton 01:43, 12 December 2008 (EST)

edit changes
Hi Pablo, You can see the latest changes I have made here - the previous version is on the left hand side and the current version is on the right hand side.

re your query re referencing -- see the standard format here -- author, url, title, publication, date -- here --Bob Burton 06:10, 13 December 2008 (EST)

Novartis review
Hi Pablo,

I have been through the Novartis page, tidied up some of the material on the page and removaed other sections to the talk page. You can see the changes I have made here. --Bob Burton 04:22, 16 December 2008 (EST)

Hi Pablo
I have started to tidy up the Pioneer page. One of the things that I have done is shifted the big list of subsidiaries off the main page and tidy up the formatting. But I'd like you to finish doing the formatting and add a reference for where the list came from. with thanks --Bob Burton 14:29, 16 December 2008 (EST) Pioneer/subsidiaries as of September 2007

Re Nortel
Hi Pablo -- I just had a quick look at the edits to the Nortel page and would like to reiterate points made above. In particular:


 * you are using two different referencing standards -- neither of which is consistent with our preferred standard. See SourceWatch:References for a full explanation.


 * I know that cutting pasting material from Nortel's website is easy but its not all that useful for readers if all we have is the same that could be obtained on the company's website. It would be best to condense the material down to the most important points and add in anything that the company has not included on its website.--Bob Burton 19:59, 22 December 2008 (EST)