Talk:Joseph Lieberman

The onus is on the person who writes "unconditional". Lieberman supports the two-state solution. To prove "unconditional", you'd have to prove that every statement he makes is unequivocally supportive of Israel. I suspect that the notion that Lieberman's support is unconditional is based on the fact that he's Jewish.


 * The other side of this coin is that "unconditional" is the negative of "conditional" and it is impossible to prove a negative, so the onus is upon demonstrating the "conditional". In other words, without additional qualification, the bare use of "support" is presumed to be unconditional, to which optional conditions may or may not be applied. --M

Brimle: What? I don't think so. I don't it's natural for people to conclude that someone who supports something supports it unconditionally. Unconditional is an extreme word, a propagandistic word. It can, however be proven; one only needs a statement where Lieberman said that he supports Israel unconditionally. In the absence of such evidence, the more general and less extreme construction, simply "support", should be used.


 * If an unqualified "support" is presumed to be conditional or qualified, what conditions or qualifications should be presumed? and how? and why? --M

And by the way, where has he advocated invading Iran?


 * I don't know of any. That reference in the article is a good example of unsupported allegation and should be clarified as such, either in the article directly or by moving it to this talk section. --M

- Relocating unreferenced material from article page. Maybe he is a member of these groups (he has certainly spoken at CFR gatherings) but in the absence of refs best to park it here. --Bob Burton 03:12, 28 Jan 2006 (EST) Also, member of Council on Foreign Relations & The Foundation for the Defense of Democracies Also, member of Council on Foreign Relations & The Foundation for the Defense of Democracies

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israel firster...
Lieberman is an Israel Firster -- an AIPAC man. If this is nowhere highlighted in this article, then the value of this resource is close to zip. Antidotto